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I started this as a FaceBook note and it got long enough I thought it would make a better DW/LJ/IJ post. I was feeling spiritual, but hyper-logical, when I wrote it. Also, hyper-agnostic.

Language is so frakking limited. Words that come to mind are "Kohraindehr/God/Tao gives us the power to do anything with our lives, even the power to fuck up," but there are too many frakking connotations to that which render the meaning completely different from what I mean. The connotations suggest a level of dependency that my meaning does not; it also implies a level of personal interaction with God/Whatever that simply does not exist. Kohraindehr made Existence1, and doesn't interfere. There are things set up which make existence possible, and things set up to help draw what we think we want to us, but it is an impersonal system. Lesser Deities may be involved, powerful spirits and so on, but Kohraindehr Djairself2 does not make value judgments. Lesser Deities may possibly be close enough to human level to interfere, I don't know for sure, and I don't know how much. I am fairly certain I am an Avatar of Shao'Kehn, Goddess of Chaos... but if I'm right, would Shao'Kehn helping me really be interfering? If I'm right about that, wouldn't that mean She was helping Herself? Anyway, moving on. My point is, lesser Deities notwithstanding, Kohraindehr being The All, would be a kind of sentience so alien from out own that we could not possibly hope to comprehend it, and there is no way to know what - if anything - it thinks of us. Given the scale of our universe, and the high likelihood of there being an infinite number of alternate universes, it is probably safe to say that we'd probably have more in common with Cthulhu or other Elder Gods than we do with Kohraindehr. Which is not to suggest any malevolence on Kohraindehr's part. Far from it, I believe - given the scale of Existence - that any mind capable of viewing even a significant portion of all of that vastness and actually being able to process any of it would be incapable of malice or even benevolence. It would be the ultimate True Neutral.

I think humans must know this on some instinctive level, so they attempt to circumvent this unpleasant fact by choosing to believe that the Kohraindehr-level God is also a personal God. But Yahweh/Jehovah, if real (and since I believe all Deities to be real, most likely is), is *not* the Ultimate God. Whether this mistake was His fault or His worshiper's fault, I shall not speculate.

But I also find it notable that, in the Yahgahn Creation story (which any Yahgahn worth the name would admit is symbolic and artistic, not to be taken literally), Kohraindehr is the only Deity aside from Krainaik (Time) that does not have a description of Djair form. Almost all of the Deities mentioned in The Noi'ii'ohn'ay'ya are described to have a form similar to the Ah'Koi Bahnis. Shao'Kehn is almost an exception - Djai began formless, and was given form by Ahn'Dahn.

Now was The All always sentient? I don't know. There's another interesting detail in the Yahgahn creation story which says that, even though Kohraindehr existed the whole time, Djai was the last to be born. I always wondered why that detail was there - like most of my stories, it just wrote itself - and now I'm beginning to think it's a clue. That maybe Kohraindehr/Existence/Tao/Whatever was not always sentient, but once sentients came into being, it became sentient. Which, given the relative-world paradox3 that, because Time is an illusion and really there is only one Moment, means Kohraindehr has always been sentient via "paradoxical causality" for lack of a better term. IE, Djai "existed" before Djai was "born."

Bear in mind, these are all speculation. In a world where we cannot truly be sure of anything given the limitations of human sensory organs and the human brain, anyone who is sure of anything is just plain silly.


1 = Even this is inaccurate. Kohraindehr Is, Was, Has Always Been, Will Always Be. Kohraindehr is the Circle, with no beginning and no end. Kohraindehr is Everything, and thus could not be Created, much less by Djairself.

2 = Djai is a genderless pronoun in Trai'Pahg'Nan'Nog, and "djair" is the possessive form. The d is effectively silent.

3 = Something paradoxical in terms of the Relative Realm, especially in regards to human ability to comprehend it, but which is nonetheless true in the Absolute Realm.

Crossposted from http://fayanora.dreamwidth.org

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kengr
Dec. 12th, 2010 02:29 pm (UTC)
fayanora
Dec. 12th, 2010 03:22 pm (UTC)
Every attempt I make to learn a new language fails miserably. I pick up a few words here or there, but the majority of it slips out of my brain and cannot be held onto. I think I actually have more of my constructed Trai'Pahg'Nan'Nog language memorized than I do of Spanish or German.
erithianopius
Dec. 15th, 2010 11:17 am (UTC)
I understand this completely, though I agree that Terran languages are completely insufficient to properly describe many concepts.

I have had an understanding of existence, which I have always been able to "percieve" for as long as I can remember. I do not know how this works. I just have certain innate ideas. It is as if I have always known how certain things are. for a very long time I have had a specific cosmology. I see some common aspects with your post to some elements of my existence - view (as opposed to worldview, which sounds too limited to describe an understanding of reality, which I believe to span many universes)

My cosmology is centered on three "Continuums", the Continuum of Systems, the Continuum of Essences, and the Singularity. The Systemic Continuum is the "mechanics" of existence. The "program code" for it is represented by mathematics. It is physical and logical. The Essential Continuum is the "life" or "consciousness" of Existence, and is far more difficult to describe. In short, it is everything that is not physical and cannot be described in mathematical terms. The Singularity is the hybridization, the interaction, of the Systemic and Essential, and it represents the entirety of Existence. The relationship between the Continuums is a bit like the Yin, the Yang, and the Yin - Yang; two complimentary aspects and their unification.

Similar concepts:

1. There is a "Center" of Existence which is the source and nucleus of everything. It can best be described as the conciever and observer. As it is the ultimate (being? entity? mind? creator? controller? celestial processer?) of existence, it could be compared to a one god, but the human concept is so far off the mark that there is really no way to compare any human religion to this. It is something I have never been able to describe in any way that I felt did it justice. I can just say that you do a better job, because it is exactly what you describe Kohraindehr to be. I have never had a name for it except for a phrase that always comes into my mind when I think of it; the Inner Sphere. I do not know why it calls itself that, but that is what I have always "known" its title to be (or what it best translates to - the real name is far more complex, but is beyond language as we know it).
erithianopius
Dec. 15th, 2010 11:18 am (UTC)

2. The complete form concieves not only Existence as it is, but as it could be, and most importantly, as it will be when the Systemic and Essential Continuums are completely unified. This is a crucial part of my cosmology: the idea that Existence is evolving, through intelligent life and its actions upon the Universes, into something very different than we know today. Basically, life is unifying the Systemic and Essential continuums and manifesting the "Absolute" Integrated Singularity (the name of both the third Continuum and the sum of all three). Intelligent life is particulary important in driving this unification, which will result in an Existence composed of living, intelligent, self - creating and proliferating universes, which are "ideal" (for lack of a better word), with all minds connected, yet each able to create its own universes. The Integrated Singularity is a transuniversal Omega Point which all intelligent life will eventually merge and then create. Just imagine something like your experimental storyverse actually being created everywhere due to an extreme level of scientific and technological advancement. This happens in the very distant future, how distant I do not know. The Omega Point that results is the manifestation of the Singularity and the Inner Sphere, which are "encoded" in Existence now. When the Omega Point is created, the Inner Sphere will transition from "beyond reality and inevitability" to reality. This Omega Point state is both the sum of all intelligence and all life at the time and the Inner Sphere, because they are all the same thing. When this occurs, the emergent Inner Sphere and the Integrated Singularity "resonate" through all time, creating the Systemic and Essential continuums and all of the various alternate realities/timelines, which all lead to the same outcome - Integration. Even though the Inner Sphere has always existed, it emerges at the Omega Point and then creates Existence in multiple time loops. Since the Integrated Singularity is infinite and eternal, it is both endless and without time at once. It is a branching from this timeline and represents a single moment at the beginning AND end of every universe in every reality (the multiple universes are different forms of space/time and mass/energy and they all exist within each reality). Everything "after" that point is a single eternal infinity state. Therefore, the "supreme being" can exist through all time, even if it is created in the future

This Omega Point may not seem possible. It may seem to defy all known physical laws. However, it is something I believe WILL happen. I think it is inevitable, and that even though it may not happen for billions of years (most likely), I think that it is what the development of intelligent life will lead to, eventually. I even believe that it is the purpose of intelligent life.
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