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Fascinating realization

I just realized something fascinating. In my Nokwahl novels, the story takes place in the early 3000's AD. Humans are friends with lots of alien species. We got FTL from the Xazians, but then when we started being friends with the Na'Voom Da, a species millions of years in advance of us, we started being introduced to some of their awesome technologies. By the time we meet Nokwahl, ships based on Na'Voom Da technology are almost as common as Xazian ships.

Na'Voom Da technology includes the ability to convert hyperspacial energy into matter, thus synthesizing matter. Engines also run on this hyperspacial energy. Engines which can be very tiny. Usually ranging from the size of a car battery to the size of a small pebble, though larger engines exist. There is also anti-gravity. So... it would be possible in that universe to make something akin to a personal jet-pack. It wouldn't be a jet-pack, exactly; maybe an anti-gravity device with some sort of impulse-like thrusters. But it could allow you to fly almost like Superman, at fast speeds, and would be quiet and cool (wouldn't burn you).

If, that is, it were legal. I dunno if it is or not.

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underlankers
Apr. 25th, 2010 01:31 am (UTC)
If the Na'Voom Da are millions of years in advance of humans, why would they necessarily see them or the Xazians as necessarily even lifeforms?

-Ashari-
fayanora
Apr. 25th, 2010 01:36 am (UTC)
Technologically speaking, I meant.

And anyway, they're a peaceful race.
underlankers
Apr. 25th, 2010 01:41 am (UTC)
I suppose the question to ask is how did a peaceful race progress millions of years beyond what humans have done?

-Ashari-
fayanora
Apr. 25th, 2010 01:49 am (UTC)
Well... they're like the Federation. They don't start wars, but when someone attacks them, they fight back. And they had a long war with the Vorsht at one point. The Vorsht were warlike until they mistakenly destroyed an entire planet. Their High Queen at the time was so shocked that she banned war. And since the Vorsht are insectoid, they obey their Queen. That particular Queen died a long time ago, but the ban is honored anyway.
underlankers
Apr. 25th, 2010 01:59 am (UTC)
Ah. There's a lot to consider here.

If I were to look at most aggressors in history, the leaders of aggressive wars would always go to elaborate extremes so it looked like the other guy started it. The USA in the 1840s, Germany and Japan in the 1930s, Imperial Rome with every bunch of poor saps who had land they wanted.....

And I could easily see the Vorsht reacting that way depending on how rare habitable planets are in a particular 'Verse. On the other hand, in a situation like Star Wars.....

-Ashari-
baron_waste
Apr. 26th, 2010 10:29 am (UTC)
Careful.

“We got FTL from the Centauri, but then when we started being friends with the Vorlons, a species millions of years in advance of us, we started being introduced to some of their awesome technologies. By the time we meet Nokwahl, 'White Star' ships based on Vorlon technology are almost as common as Centauri ships.”

- Babylon 5

You gotta watch out for that kind of stuff. The Earth Alliance sent slower-than-light ships to Alpha Centauri; they returned via Centauri jump gates. The Vorlons are among the first sentient races in the galaxy - &c.

The only thing more embarrassing than the editor spotting that, is if he doesn't and the reviewers do.

fayanora
Apr. 26th, 2010 11:02 am (UTC)
Re: Careful.
WTF?!? Are you accusing me of plagarism? I assure you there isn't. I hadn't ever seen B5 when I wrote ITYNLs, and if you knew the story better, you'd see there aren't as many similarities as that makes it sound.

In ITYNLs:
1. First contact with an alien race is via SETI, when a Xazian slave ship arrives to conquer Earth. Rebels aboard alert the humans to the plan. Humans end up getting stuck in the middle of a civil war that finally ends with the rebels victorious, overthrowing the government. After 200 years of war, humans pick up the pieces and then start to explore space.

2. Xazians are shapeshifters.

3. There's no great war or anything like that. The Na'Voom Da had never heard of humans before first contact and don't interfere much with other species. Also, they're aquatic.

4. The Vorsht are similarly advanced like the Na'Voom Da (though I don't know how old) and were warlike once, but not any longer.

5. Na'Voom Da and Vorsht don't play huge roles in that storyverse. It's mainly the humans, Xazians, and Ah'Koi Bahnis so far.

6. That storyverse is mostly peaceful after the Xazis War. Well, no major wars anyway.

I do admit I saw one episode once of B5 as a child and based the design of Vorsht ships loosely on the Shadow vessels (having no idea what they were, I was so young) but that is the extent of the intentional similarities.
baron_waste
Apr. 26th, 2010 11:24 am (UTC)
Re: Careful.

No, no - I'm just saying, Watch out: It's a minefield. I have a terrible time with this: Brilliant ideas I have, turn out to be incestuously similar to some Andre Norton book I read as a teenager.

And of course, you may remember the most famous recent example: Harlan Ellison's Outer Limits story “The Soldier,” where two combatants from a war-blasted future duke it out in the streets of modern-day Los Angeles.

James Cameron had to fork out plenty for that one, when The Terminator hit the silver screen…

fayanora
Apr. 26th, 2010 09:44 pm (UTC)
Re: Careful.
Oh wow.

Well, I suppose it's possible something I think of might be similar to something I read as a kid and don't consciously remember, though unlikely; I didn't read much as a kid, and stories are one of the few things I consciously remember from childhood. I have such a good memory for stories I've read or seen since my teenage years, though, that the odds of subconsciously mirroring one of those is slim. Especially since I love to subvert the dominant paradigm.

Thanks for pointing this out, though.
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