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Portland shooting

Recently in Portland an unarmed man was shot by a police officer. There is a great hue and cry, angry people calling for the officer to be fired. Now I'm no fan of police officers, but honestly... the fact that the man had no weapon is irrelevant. He was reaching for something in his waistband. If he was stupid enough to do that, he deserves to get shot.

Granted, there were communications problems that need to be addressed, but still, the people screaming in mindless rage at the officer need to SHUT THE FUCK UP. When you're around the police, you DO NOT reach for your waistband. You keep your hands where they can see them. Cops treat non-cops as potentially dangerous people; it's safest to treat cops the same way and be as cautious as possible, and not give them a reason to get violent. And if you're fool enough to not be cautious, you should be considered a candidate for the Darwin Awards.

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uncledark
Feb. 18th, 2010 02:52 am (UTC)
Question: Who saw the guy reach for his belt?
fayanora
Feb. 18th, 2010 02:59 am (UTC)
The cop, I would assume.
uncledark
Feb. 18th, 2010 03:05 am (UTC)
Uh huh. So, while the odds are that it was a righteous shoot, if only the shooter saw the guy reach for something, maybe the guy didn't?

I've seen too many entirely innocent folks shot while reaching for ID, or holding cell phones, or (recently) because the cop thought he was drawing his tazer and not his 9.

And, you may have noticed, officers shooting civilians on very shaky grounds is far too common.

I understand the uproar. In giving the cops the right to use lethal force at their own judgment, we are also demanding of them better judgment that we ask of most anyone. Failing in that judgment is failing the public trust. A trust which is far to frequently abused.

Cops are in danger, and have to treat situations seriously. I get that, and I wouldn't ask them not to. But I do hold them to a higher standard.
kengr
Feb. 18th, 2010 03:33 am (UTC)
All the cops on the scene.

Yes, multiple. The grand jury found the cop hadn't done anything to be prosecuted for.

But folks can't get the idea thru their head that when the very mother who'd called the cops in the first place had said her son had a gun it's not surprising that reaching for his waistband caused the cop to shoot.

The problem (and it does need to be addressed) is that due to poor communications, the cop who shot hadn't been told that the guy was surrendering.

*Every time* there's a shooting, especially of a minority, people do this. They ignore the fact that based on the info at hand the cop was presented with a choice between reacting to what looked like a threat, or waiting and (if he was right and it was a threat) getting shot himself.

I have yet to see anybody protesting a shooting recognize the simple fact that these situations are a matter of life and death for the cops.
uncledark
Feb. 18th, 2010 03:41 am (UTC)
Ah, that's different, then.
brockulfsen
Feb. 18th, 2010 04:40 am (UTC)
As the Discordians have long stated:

Your local Police are armed and dangerous.

fayanora
Feb. 18th, 2010 05:17 am (UTC)
LOL
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