March 19th, 2018

mourning

Omnipotence

So there was this video. The following is the comment I put in the comment section:

Okay but like... imagine you're programming the Matrix, and filling it with artificial people. They find out about you, and they're like "Oh, you're the Admin? Okay then, create a rock so big you can't lift it." But then consider these facts: A. Any rock you use Admin privileges to lift is not technically being lifted by you, you merely commanded the system to have the rock be lifted. So you logically created a rock that, while you can command it to be lifted, you cannot yourself lift it. B. Putting that logical semantics behind, if you used Admin privileges to make a rock such that you were locked out of being able to lift it with Admin privileges, you would again have a rock so heavy you couldn't lift it. C. You ARE in fact playing logic games, because you could then say "Oh, you made a rock that you can't lift. Now to really prove you're omnipotent, you have to lift it." And you're like "I can't. I don't have Admin privileges over that rock anymore. And anyway, I technically wasn't lifting it before that anyway."

The point is that any degree of omnipotence, any definition of omnipotence, is going to have things about it where some person who thinks he's being very clever will be able to poke holes in it with logical semantic games.

That said, I am not a Christian, a Jew, or a Muslim, or any of those. My idea of "god" is "the consciousness that 'created' the universe by generating it inside itself." Because we know, from Einstein, that matter and energy are forms of the same thing, and neither can be created or destroyed, so there can be no being that creates something from nothing, because that is literally impossible. Therefore any god that existed would have to be the consciousness of the multiverse, generating the multiverse inside its own body.

Similarly, the concept of "nothing" is nonsense. If matter and energy cannot be destroyed, there can be no Nothing for them to go to. "Nothing" thus is only a label that can only exist in relation to "something," and thus "nothing" as most people think of it is a meaningless idea. That is, "nothing" is still something, so the idea of "nothing" as "the opposite of something" is meaningless. Might as well try to flarble nergles.

But basically yes, the Christians and their relatives need to think critically and logically, and improve their conception of "god." But at the same time, even a reasoned, reasonable concept of an omnipotent god can never be immune to the kind of logical semantics games people like you are fond of playing.

Though this is not to imply that any god lacking total omnipotence is unworthy of being called a god, as some would suggest. Any being that can create the universe and presumably alter it at will or destroy it is still worthy of respect and would still be worthy of being called a god, as that would be functional omnipotence, even if there were some things that someone playing semantic games showed it couldn't do.

This was cross-posted from https://fayanora.dreamwidth.org/1383608.html
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Hexes and the placebo effect

Ironically, skeptics are the easiest people to curse or hex. Skeptics are so keen on disbelieving that they unintentionally cause themselves to believe. The moment something weird happens in relation to a cursed item or negative superstition like walking under a ladder, a part of their mind worries that maybe they're wrong to be skeptical. They brush it off, but then something else weird happens, and suddenly that part of their mind has fuel to its fire. They then try to prove to themselves that they're mistaken, fighting their own mind the whole way. The longer and harder they try to disprove the thing, the more they fuel their unintentional belief.

A believer may have some answering belief to counteract this effect of the jinx. Walked under a ladder? Rub a lucky rabbit's foot to counteract it. The skeptic has no such recourse, though, and thus ends up fueling their own fearful belief without meaning to, and their behavior gets more accident prone the more paranoid they get, so they in effect jinx themselves. Thus, like I say, they're easier to jinx or curse because once you plant the idea in their head, they do the rest of the work for you. To curse a believer, you have to convince them you've hit them with something they don't have a counter for. Depending on their arsenal of beliefs, that can make it very difficult indeed to succeed, if they have lots of belief tools to counteract such hexes.

This was cross-posted from https://fayanora.dreamwidth.org/1383754.html
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