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One day, when I am at least comfortably wealthy, there are so many foods I want to try. Before I moved here to Oregon, I thought there were only two kinds of olives: black and green. And I'm fairly sure those are the same species, just one is ripe and the other is not. Now, I moved here and found out about kalamata olives (which are delicious!) and all kinds of other types of olives in all shapes and sizes. I'd never even SEEN sushi before, and they have it in the stores here. And oh my goodness, the variety and quantity of organic foods. Also, very rarely had I ever seen loose tea. Now I see it quite often. Ooooh, and bread! I love bread, it's one of my favorite foods. I especially love chewy bread. There's so many kinds of bread.

Something I realized today, upon seeing a tiny kind of apple in the store called a lady apple, is that there is a lot more variety of species and breeds of fruits than there are of vegetables. Now before you disagree, think on it a moment: most of the things that are considered vegetables are actually fruits. Because they contain seeds.

The following are all those "veggies" that are actually fruits:

* Eggplants
* Cucumbers
* Squash
* Zucchini
* Corn (true, it's the seeds you eat, but the husk contains the seeds)
* Bell Peppers
* Hot peppers
* Other peppers
* Okra
* Olives
* Mushrooms (on a technicality, as they are the part of the fungus that makes spores)
* Green beans
* Peas in the pod
* Tomatoes

The following are the REAL veggies:

* Broccoli
* Cauliflower
* Cabbage
* Lettuce
* Asparagus (AFAIK)
* Spinach
* Tea?
* Potatoes
* Onions
* Carrots
* Ginger
* Parsnip
* Turnip

But my point is, if you think about those things, most of the foods (of fruits and veggies) that have a lot of variety of types, species, and breeds are fruits. The veggies, not so much. Broccoli? Only one species/breed that I know of. Cauliflower and asparagus, the same. Lettuce has several varieties, but not a huge number. Cabbage has two varieties that I know of. Spinach, one (unless "baby spinach" is its own breed). Tea, if it can be considered a vegetable, has myriad varieties though. Potatoes and onions have the most variety of any vegetable (unless you count tea) that I know of. Carrots have two kinds that I know of, unless baby carrots don't count.
But tomatoes? OH MY GOD the varieties! So too olives, squash, peppers, and mushrooms among others. And fruits that are actually popularly considered fruits have astonishing levels of variety! (Methinks it may be because people tend to like fruits more than veggies.)


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Dec. 13th, 2007 02:10 pm (UTC)
Broccoli has a couple of species, (broccolini, rapini), is related to cauliflower, and is actually a flower (or a bunch of them). Cabbage has red and green, plus nappa, and a couple of others, and is also related to broccoli. Baby carrots are just trimmed down regular carrots, but there are also red, yellow, white, purple varieties. Tea is actually all Camellia sinensis, and all the different varieties come from the way it is processed. If you want a really cool webpage that details what part of a plant the veggie is, and what's related to it: http://www.foodsubs.com/FGVegetables.html. There's a whole section on olives! And mushrooms! (I think mushrooms are cool, and I live near the mushroom capital of the world, so I've gotten to see them being cultivated.)

I'm just a little obsessed with food, hmm...
Dec. 13th, 2007 05:01 pm (UTC)
i love food!
and sushi is so yummy, it's very popular here too, it's in the stores and supermarkets
also i think it's very funny the way you did your list, mainly because of the mushrooms
Dec. 14th, 2007 06:38 am (UTC)

Mushrooms rock!
Dec. 13th, 2007 06:39 pm (UTC)
I don't like food :( Or eating in general....

I think it's the ADHD meds.
Dec. 14th, 2007 06:39 am (UTC)
That must suck.

Still, I kind of understand. I often get annoyed that I *hsve* to eat. I wish it was a choice.
Dec. 13th, 2007 06:42 pm (UTC)
Potatoes and carrots are roots. Are roots consider veggies?
Dec. 13th, 2007 06:44 pm (UTC)

Food is the food of the gods. That is all.
Dec. 14th, 2007 06:46 am (UTC)
Good question. Dunno.
Dec. 14th, 2007 06:50 am (UTC)
The page that dorkphoenyx link says they are in fact veggies. And tubers rather than roots. I still don't understand the concept though. Maybe veggies do not really exist. I bet Agent Mulder would know. Speaking of which, it sure would be fun to conjure him.
Dec. 14th, 2007 11:43 am (UTC)
Veggies don't really exist. Sort of more in concept than in actuality. There's no scientific classification 'vegetable', but it's a good catch-all term because saying I want some stalks and leaves for dinner sounds odd.
Dec. 14th, 2007 07:32 pm (UTC)
Dec. 13th, 2007 08:50 pm (UTC)
Actually the difference between green and black olives isn't ripeness.


Dec. 14th, 2007 06:42 am (UTC)
So green olives are pickled olives, essentially?

I knew there was a reason I didn't like them. The only thing that should ever be pickled is cucumbers. Anything else is an abomination unto pickles.
Dec. 14th, 2007 06:46 am (UTC)
I prefer black olives. I might change my mind if I can ever find de-seeded green olives.
Dec. 14th, 2007 07:18 am (UTC)
I rarely see them *with* seeds. Finding them pitted *and* without a filler (pimentos, cheese, various other things) is the hard trick.
Dec. 14th, 2007 08:06 am (UTC)
I might like the filler. Hmm. But then grocery stores around here do not have much variety on the shelves it seems. I'll have to be on the look-out for that filler.
Dec. 14th, 2007 08:09 am (UTC)
Huh? The most *common* green olives I've seen in stores are pitted with those red pimentos stuffed in the holes.
Dec. 14th, 2007 08:37 am (UTC)
He's Canadian. :-)
Dec. 14th, 2007 07:20 am (UTC)
No, green olives are *fermented*. Not the same thing.

And there are lots of other pickled vegetables. And meats, and various other things. Pickling is a form of preservation, only salting and smoking are older.

Pickled eggs aren't bad. Sauerkraut is pickled cabbage. Corned beef is sort of pickled. The list goes on.
Dec. 14th, 2007 07:29 am (UTC)
Fermented, pickled... I don't see a difference. (Exaggeration.)

Pickled eggs aren't bad. Sauerkraut is pickled cabbage. Corned beef is sort of pickled. The list goes on.

BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE ONE TRUE PICKLE, the Almighty Cucumber Pickle. (Which is, of course, kosher.)
Dec. 14th, 2007 08:10 am (UTC)
Fermented, pickled... I don't see a difference.

Ok, I'll pickle some grapes and ferment some. And we'll see what you think of each.. :-)

Dec. 14th, 2007 08:38 am (UTC)
On second thought...
Dec. 14th, 2007 06:44 am (UTC)
RE: Indigo Children
I can't remember, have you read Dream Catcher by Stephen King? I think you'd like it, if not. It's an Indigo Child story and seems to syncretize Satanic ideas with less brutal ideas well enough, as I understand it. That aside, it's long and complicated in the fantastic style of Stephen King's best.

Alternatively, there's also the movie, which does the same thing if shorter. They needless changed some scenes though. I don't want to give too much away but their methods of alien-killing-people becomes repetitive while Stephen King did not. The scene they changed was so cool, too, in the book. Anyway the movie does well enough in getting the essential story across. But you know, they have to be shortened and all.
Dec. 14th, 2007 07:33 am (UTC)
Re: Indigo Children
I cannot read Steven King's writing, I have tried. I don't care for horror to begin with, and I find his writing style tedious and excessively verbose. I found it impossible to connect with anything going on in the stories, nor to muster any kind of enthusiasm for turning the page. Quite frankly, he's lucky most people are not like me, for if they were, I doubt anyone would know his name.
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