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I was having a discussion with Chrissy a week or so ago, and something she said gave me an idea. She said that, while in prison, a couple guys tried to pick a fight with her by hitting her. And what'd she do? She just didn't react except to give them a look that said that all you got? That was pathetic. You know, like in the movies where the hero hits the big villain and the villain doesn't even feel it, and gives the hero that intimidating 'You hit like an octopus' look.

So I was thinking, I know that the whole 'turn the other cheek' thing is interpreted (and was probably intended to mean) "nonviolence" like Buddha and Gandhi and so on, and most Satanists see that as weakness, but it *could* be interpreted as "big freakin whoopdee doo."

Of course, while many Satanists say they value their own lives and would always fight back to defend themselves and loved ones, I wonder... since Satanists value freedom, I'd be willing to bet that they would do whatever it took to win freedom if freedom was being suppressed. Individualists like Satanists would undoubtedly be on the front lines. And, being clever and valuing their own lives, what better way to fight for freedom than with cunning nonviolence? I think nonviolence can be as Satanic as violence. In fact, it could possibly be even MORE Satanic than violence. I mean, any idiot can take up arms and be violent, and truth be told, violence may solve some things, but it never solves them all, and actually causes more problems than it solves. So what better way for a Satanist to fight for freedom than to use his or her brain?

Look at the Boston Tea Party. How clever was that! Sabotage of the product most representative of the taxation without representation issue, it's brilliant! And Gandhi... the British made it illegal to buy salt from anyone but the British, and made it illegal to pick up salt from the beaches and other places. And what did Gandhi do? Organized a whole shitload of people to blatantly break the law by the simple act of picking up salt from the beaches. That's some cojones!

So yeah. Who says turning the other cheek is weakness? I say it takes some real guts to effectively show your opponent you're not afraid of them. Besides, like the quote says, "Love your enemies, it confuses the hell out of them."

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osnadurtha
Nov. 19th, 2007 06:28 am (UTC)
Amen!

Is there a Satanic equivalent to Amen?
A-me? I don't know :)

When someone (IRL) is being a cunt to me, I just laugh it off :) Nothing pisses them off more :) "Have a great day!"

When I am following traffic laws (which I do all the time, I don't take that crap lightly), and people honk at me and shit, I wave to them with a pretty smile :)

Oooh it gets them so mad :)
fayanora
Nov. 19th, 2007 06:51 am (UTC)
Is there a Satanic equivalent to Amen?

"Hail Satan!" or "Ave Satanas!"

But I like A-me! :-) Can I metaquotes that?

When someone (IRL) is being a cunt to me, I just laugh it off :) Nothing pisses them off more :)

Hee hee. Yeah, I remember in training for the customer service job I have now, this one trainee said it's his natural inclination to laugh when people are angry at him, they told him to restrain that tendency because it pisses people off to be laughed at when in a foul mood.
osnadurtha
Nov. 19th, 2007 06:58 am (UTC)
PLEASE metaquote it :) PLEASE PLEASE :) Squee squee :)

Not only that, but it puts us in a better mood too!
fayanora
Nov. 19th, 2007 09:35 am (UTC)
consortofvenus
Nov. 19th, 2007 07:24 am (UTC)
There's "Shahemforash" (or something like that) but to be honest I've never bothered to learned what the word means. It's just all over Satanic lit.
fayanora
Nov. 19th, 2007 09:36 am (UTC)
That's a new one on me. Neat.
kengr
Nov. 19th, 2007 04:47 pm (UTC)
Actually a google search seems to show that it is "shehamforash"
consortofvenus
Nov. 20th, 2007 12:07 am (UTC)
Having the Satanic Bible near me now, I see it's spelled Shemhamforash. It's at the end of the three Invocations of Lust, Destruction and Compassion, for example.

I heard a few Satanic sects say "shalome" (another word I can't spell lol. That Jewish/Muslim greeting).
consortofvenus
Nov. 20th, 2007 12:16 am (UTC)
Shehamforash
Sadly, all the internet tells me is that it's some curse Lilith put on Adam.
consortofvenus
Nov. 19th, 2007 07:22 am (UTC)
We take revenge when we can afford to and also if we have to (self defense) and violence if it works well in the situation. You have to be smart and it's good to know how to get to your enemy. Sometimes it's smarter to not be violent. If you don't know the guy who wants to fuck you up, it's smarter to fight back or else you're dead. Running can work too. Though a lot of the times revenge can mean through magic.

For me, in physical fights nonviolence has never worked and believe me I tried (I was a wimp as a kid and forget about outrunning those bastards...). I just stood there and got beat because I wasn't even good at defending myself. In bully situations non-violence could work to make them bored and not mess with you anymore, but then so could fighting back and scaring them off. The only thing that stopped bullying for me was schools adopting really tough disciplinary measures by my 7th years and until then I lived in fear. If they keep abusing you then see to their demise through magic; I wish I had that skill when I was a kid.
fayanora
Nov. 19th, 2007 09:39 am (UTC)
Good points. Wish I had some more intelligent reply. :-)
consortofvenus
Nov. 20th, 2007 12:03 am (UTC)
=D
consortofvenus
Nov. 20th, 2007 12:12 am (UTC)
I'm curious. In Christianity, would the non-violent solution always be expected of one?
fayanora
Nov. 20th, 2007 08:02 am (UTC)
I guess it would depend on who you ask.
consortofvenus
Nov. 20th, 2007 08:38 am (UTC)
I just asked you, sillyhead.
gkathellar
Nov. 19th, 2007 10:57 pm (UTC)
Look at the Boston Tea Party. How clever was that! Sabotage of the product most representative of the taxation without representation issue, it's brilliant!

That really was more "they got angry about the tea tax and so they decided to break some shit" then some clever nonviolent maneuver.

That's why it was called a party.
fayanora
Nov. 20th, 2007 09:53 am (UTC)
Indeed.
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