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Finally saw Frozen

I finally saw Disney's "Frozen" tonight, after avoiding it so long because of the excess of gifs that came out before the movie did, which were all over Tumblr. (I sometimes avoid doing something that's popular just because it's popular, even if I'd otherwise want to.)

It's a good movie. But I think it was YouTuber MattPat who pointed out that Prince Hans's character arc makes no bloody sense at all, and I saw for myself what he meant. (Yes, I sometimes watch fan theory videos for things I haven't even seen, fight me.) Like... there's no indication at all, not a hesitation or facial tic, not a suspicious word, not a single tell anywhere in the first half of the movie to give any kind of warning that Hans was going to become a villain. I'm sorry, but nobody is that good an actor, especially since we saw parts where nobody was watching him and he knew nobody was watching him, and he was still looking like a good guy who was truly smitten.

Also, his evil plan makes no sense. If his plan was to marry Anna and kill Elsa, he should have kissed Anna to break the spell. I mean sure, if he didn't actually love her it wouldn't work, but he could've brushed it off as "I guess we don't know each other well enough yet." And then he could have just bided his time, because as MattPat said, at that point all Hans had to do was wait for Anna to die, charge Elsa with treason and kill her, either that or just let her run away again. He'd already been given control of the kingdom, and with the queen a fugitive and the princess dead, who was going to challenge princess Anna's final command to leave Hans in charge? Especially when he was proving himself to be an amazing, kind, and compassionate ruler. In fact, that compassion he showed the people of Arendell further contradicts his later turn of villainy, making it even more suspicious. There was no need to pretend that he and Anna had gotten married before she died (without any witnesses or priest, I might add). And even if there had been, why with the dramatic reveal and then the classic villain blunder of assuming she would die soon, rather that watching her die? He could have brushed it off, as I said, then pretended to be horrified as he watched her die.

Then there's the fact his right turn into villainy happened a suspicious amount of time after the trolls were trying to set Anna up with Kristoff. I think MattPat was right to be suspicious of them, they're clearly up to something nefarious. I hope Frozen 2 reveals that Hans was mind controlled by the trolls into being a bad guy, because otherwise the whole movie really makes no sense at all thanks to that stupid, nonsense twist of Hans being a villain.

Anyway, this movie already had a villain, the Duke of Weaselton! It didn't need a second villain! And they could've still avoided the cliche of "true love's kiss" by having Hans get lost on the mountain after fighting Marshmallow, and not getting back in time to try breaking the spell.

Truly, they tried so hard to change this from the original story it was based on that they broke the story and now it's nonsense. Fun nonsense, but still nonsense.

This was cross-posted from https://fayanora.dreamwidth.org/1376376.html
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lucretiasheart
Jan. 7th, 2018 02:58 am (UTC)
That's funny. I really enjoyed that part of the plot-- like, a LOT.

I'm sick of Disney movies always being about heroic men saving innocent young women. Turning that idea on its head-- into one of a would-be savior ACTUALLY being a scheming villain is an important idea. Many, MANY men who come into women's lives are, in fact, villains who do everything right, seem really kind, and then -BAM!- they shock you with this sudden about face in character. TOTALLY realistic! I can tell women helped with the plot on this!

(though Disney handling this better in the details... yeah, I see your point)

Then-- that a SISTER can be a "true love" is also a really important idea, and was so endearing and sweet! I loved that!

Then, too, normal life is full of villains. The trope of a SINGLE villain is so unrealistic and trite. Its been done to DEATH! So... that was another point in Frozen's favor to my thinking!

But-- to each their own I suppose! Glad you liked it! My own favorite character was Olaf the magic snowman. Comic relief writ cute!
fayanora
Jan. 7th, 2018 03:31 am (UTC)
"That's funny. I really enjoyed that part of the plot-- like, a LOT.

I'm sick of Disney movies always being about heroic men saving innocent young women. Turning that idea on its head-- into one of a would-be savior ACTUALLY being a scheming villain is an important idea. Many, MANY men who come into women's lives are, in fact, villains who do everything right, seem really kind, and then -BAM!- they shock you with this sudden about face in character. TOTALLY realistic! I can tell women helped with the plot on this!"

Yes, it's a good idea, and I would have liked it if it had made any sense. The problem was, it didn't. I could forgive the ridiculously good acting, but the plan and its execution made no sense.

Here's a couple relevant videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc6NgT_6jGE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSLv9cYOA6M

"(though Disney handling this better in the details... yeah, I see your point)"

:)

"Then-- that a SISTER can be a "true love" is also a really important idea, and was so endearing and sweet! I loved that!"

Yeah, I liked how they did the same kind of thing in Maleficent, too. And the "man as villain" was done much better in that movie, too.

"Then, too, normal life is full of villains. The trope of a SINGLE villain is so unrealistic and trite. Its been done to DEATH! So... that was another point in Frozen's favor to my thinking!"

That is a good point...

"But-- to each their own I suppose! Glad you liked it! My own favorite character was Olaf the magic snowman. Comic relief writ cute!"

He was pretty cute, yes. But I have a special place in my heart for Marshmallow.
lucretiasheart
Jan. 7th, 2018 06:14 am (UTC)
Heh! =^)
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