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Good frakking gourd

Robert Anton Wilson was right: rigid modeltheism sucks in anyone. I can't decide which is worse: rigid Xians or rigid atheists. Correction: rigid materialists. People who think belief in magick is a mental disorder. Fuck them. It works, I have experience that it works. They can just fuck off.

This was cross-posted from http://fayanora.dreamwidth.org/1115023.html
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katrinathelamia
Sep. 9th, 2012 10:05 pm (UTC)
I can come up with even worse.

Rigid Discordians.

I'll let you try to figure out how that would work.

Let me know when you gain enlightenment on how such a matter results in it being worse.
alex_antonin
Sep. 10th, 2012 11:59 pm (UTC)
Yeah... I met a Republican Discordian once. Unpleasant fellow. Luckily, I never knew him in person.
katrinathelamia
Sep. 15th, 2012 08:45 am (UTC)
I am not republican...

But I am a fundamentalist discordian.
fayanora
Sep. 15th, 2012 08:47 am (UTC)
:-)
unico_love
Sep. 9th, 2012 10:11 pm (UTC)
I think I know what you're referring to you, and I'd rather not get involved, but I feel the same.
unico_love
Sep. 9th, 2012 10:29 pm (UTC)
Eh, got too irritated;-)
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alex_antonin
Sep. 11th, 2012 12:01 am (UTC)
You don't understand. This guy called belief in magick a psychological disorder. He had a very toxic energy about him. I got the strong feeling that he wouldn't believe in magick even if there WERE incontrovertible proof.
fayanora
Sep. 11th, 2012 12:02 am (UTC)
Dammit, that was me, I didn't know this browser had Alex logged in.
katrinathelamia
Sep. 15th, 2012 08:52 am (UTC)
Guy is a con artist
James Randi is a known con artist.

Here is more getting into a good and trusted position in the area of the skeptics community. I'm more skeptical of him, as once he gets more trusted on the matter.

People, wondering where the heck James Randi got one million dollars to pay people, have tracked down to find Mr. Randi does not actually have a prize to give.

Further more, it looks like Mr. Randi will take anything, and claim it as debunked. Then use it to mock the person.

He is not a scientist... he is more of a fraud than Uri Gellar was/is.
katrinathelamia
Sep. 15th, 2012 09:11 am (UTC)
On proof
On prooving how magic/magick exists. That is a bit harder to do... let's just try to follow along on my crazy speech here. Reading comprehension will determine if you are a Scientist. As I honestly do not believe you on that mark.

You have a computer here. I am assuming you are interacting with Livejournal by computer, and not Butterflies (I prefer the EMAC mode just FYI).

Now, suppose the computer did not turn on one day. How would you react?

Well, I'm going out onto a limb to suggest you'd look at how to repair the device. As that is much more interesting and fulfilling that going out to look at rose bushes. What with needing to invent stories of fays living under them to give a crap, that we all suffer from.

(Personally, I have a phobia of flowers)

Now when you open up the computer... it is like it is full of magnets and stuff. Who the hell knows how half the magnets and stuff work inside the damned thing.

Well, somebody managed to figure out how to put those magnets in an order that allows to you run IPv4 over TCP--possibly with an SSL layer, in a way that has packets sent back and forth in a consistent enough fashion to be able to have something appear on the screen that usually is favourable with your views on the world.

I cannot say whether or not you could pull out a soddering iron, and make a makeshift ethernet board should you have the need to do that... but I think we can agree... there is somebody out there who can, by the neckbeard of Odin, grab a soddering iron, and justify his percieved virginity (guy likely gets laid... but doesn't give a crap about it).

The next step, is just to step back here. Watch all the amature advice people give on computers. I mean, it doesn't turn on? Install Kazaa and Smiles 2.0--that was probably your issue. Was your Zwinky updated? Did you have Norton? Norton is garbage, grab Mandrive Antivirus. No, wait that is garbage... run Vuse--it blocks viruses. Did you install a firewall? Was windows Pirated? Pirate it, that will fix it. How about I send you an email in Yahoo, on how to fix that. What is your Facebook account? On, did you try rebooting, several times?

Now, ask yourself: could you ask any of these people to empirically prove computers exist?

No, you couldn't... I tried. I actually did a social experiment, where I used the same rigourous exercises to determine paranormal forces, one Valve's Steam software distribution system. The social experiment determined, using the same merits of disprooving paranormal existences, that Valve's Steam also did not exist. Despite many people claimingto have had wonderful experience with games like Counterstrike, Half-life and Portal.

Of course, computers exist. Of course Valve also exists. The existence of the number three, however, is up for debate.

I simply did that, to test the calibration of one of the tools of Science.

Disproving the existence of Gabe Newell was to act as a control test on this experiment. If this manner of proof was actually functional, I'd probably have gotten Gabe to shake my hand personally. Instead, I now, for the sake of consistence, have to disbelieve Gabe ever existed.

Foolish superstitious people, believing in Gabe Newell.

-=-

So, what is a better answer to use here?

I'd suggest looking at a lot more information on psychology, sociology, anthropology, physics, chemistry and biology.

Then, grab those ye ol' tomes of DOOMY DOOMS OF DOOM, understanding your own Black Iron Prison's blinding to stuff in there... and start to ask: how could I make that work. This crazy goal... how could I do that?

Just because you cannot see the Yoggoth breathing down your neck, doesn't mean he is not there. It just means you have a few psychological blind spots that force you to not be able to see it.

It requires a bit more than asking somebody, who'd suggest the equivalent of installing Kazaa onto your computer.
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